Bernie Sanders Speaks: The Nation podcast 9/22

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The Nation interview with Bernie
: John Nichols, who with Katrina vanden Heuvel sat down with the senator, sets the scene and introduces our excerpts.  Bernie talks about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, and the future of the Democratic Party.

Plus: Edward Snowden explains his motivation for revealing the extent of NSA surveillance, and says he’d be willing to go to jail if he could come home. Amy Wilentz explains Snowden’s appearance via live video from Moscow at a UC Irvine conference and introduces our excerpts.

Also: Henry Kissinger, war criminal and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, has announced he will not endorse either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. Greg Grandin talks about Kissinger’s life and crimes—his book Kissinger’s Shadow is out now in paperback.